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And his response after the fact is quite telling. If you or I were accused of possibly giving a nazi salute, we’d be looking to explain ourselves and/or apologize. This guy? He doubles down…

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Dickc wrote:
asher2789 wrote: Jan 23rd, '25, 17:37
Dickc wrote: Jan 23rd, '25, 17:26 474498875_623234613417369_5015265861287130678_n.jpg
for f*** sake. theres video evidence of him doing a nazi salute, stop trying to defend or downplay it. musk is a racist, apartheid nazi piece of sh*t who makes terrible cars that you need to swipe a touch screen to drive. f*** him and f*** his stupid f*** fan boys. the only good nazi is a dead one. my grandparents didnt fight the nazis for schmucks in 2025 defending these f*** losers.
Sorry to piss in your Cheerios Asher, but I have not seen the video, only the still like in the meme above. Using just those it sure looks like they are the same and also Musk's is posted by Trump haters to make him look bad. Post the video link so I can judge for myself.
Dude, do a little more research. You just find a meme and then believe that’s all there is. Or can you?

A quick search of “Taylor swift nazi salute” will show you the image was doctored…

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/photo ... zi-salute/

The others, I’ll leave it up to you to figure out. Hint, there’s videos of those too.
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Not suggesting Musk get the benefit of the doubt, just saying look at the context. He wasn't saying anything about Nazi ideology or hail hitler or talking about white supremacy or race. He was just thanking supporters who participated in a free election. In that context, I don't think it's reasonable to believe he was trying to make a Nazi salute.

I also think it's fair to respond to ridiculous accusations with ridicule.
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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 25th, '25, 17:13 Not suggesting Musk get the benefit of the doubt, just saying look at the context. He wasn't saying anything about Nazi ideology or hail hitler or talking about white supremacy or race. He was just thanking supporters who participated in a free election. In that context, I don't think it's reasonable to believe he was trying to make a Nazi salute.

I also think it's fair to respond to ridiculous accusations with ridicule.
He didn’t have to say or do anything related to Nazis. Honoring Trump and his supporters with a similar salute is enough to question his action.
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This is the sort of thing that lost Democrats the election.

Trump is a lot of things but he is not a Nazi, nor are the overwhelming majority of his supporters. I don't even think it's fair or reasonable to call them fascists.
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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 25th, '25, 19:34 This is the sort of thing that lost Democrats the election.

True, when taken to the extreme as was done last year

Trump is a lot of things but he is not a Nazi, nor are the overwhelming majority of his supporters. I don't even think it's fair or reasonable to call them fascists.

Agree, when related to the overwhelming number of them, but there are certainly many among his supporters who come close, and Trump gives them cover.
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Dickc wrote: Jan 24th, '25, 13:47
asher2789 wrote: Jan 23rd, '25, 17:37
Dickc wrote: Jan 23rd, '25, 17:26 474498875_623234613417369_5015265861287130678_n.jpg
for f*** sake. theres video evidence of him doing a nazi salute, stop trying to defend or downplay it. musk is a racist, apartheid nazi piece of sh*t who makes terrible cars that you need to swipe a touch screen to drive. f*** him and f*** his stupid f*** fan boys. the only good nazi is a dead one. my grandparents didnt fight the nazis for schmucks in 2025 defending these f*** losers.
Sorry to piss in your Cheerios Asher, but I have not seen the video, only the still like in the meme above. Using just those it sure looks like they are the same and also Musk's is posted by Trump haters to make him look bad. Post the video link so I can judge for myself.
the video is all over the goddamn internet. go watch it. stop excusing fascism. this is despicable. if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, its a f*** duck. someone needs to luigi his ass pronto.
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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 25th, '25, 19:34 This is the sort of thing that lost Democrats the election.

Trump is a lot of things but he is not a Nazi, nor are the overwhelming majority of his supporters. I don't even think it's fair or reasonable to call them fascists.
STOP EXCUSING FASCISM!!!!

the democrats lost because:
  • ran on a platform of "protecting democracy" without holding a f*** primary
    • gaslit the entire country over inflation
    • fully supported the israeli genocide
    • ran unpopular biden and then realized too late and forced unpopular harris with zero votes to her name
    • didnt have a real platform other than "were not trump"
    • shat on their base, admonishing and scolding the left
    • refuse to do anything for the working class, too high on their identity politics supply because its inoffensive to the capitalists who control both parties since we live in a one party government that pretends to be two
every single one of my coworkers voted for trump. every last one. many voted for obama twice, voted for bernie in the primaries, even voted for biden the first time around. democrats dont listen, dont f*** care, all they care about is the identity politics obsessed work from home laptop toting liberal elites and the capitalists who donate to them. they dont have a ground up platform like bernie had, kamala harris wasted a billion f*** dollars on her friends in the professional managerial class to do focus groups, marketing and advertising sh*t and still lost. they are deeply unpopular for a reason.

i have zero respect for liberals, all they care about is maintaining a status quo that does not work. at least the trump voters know sh*t needs to change, its just so f*** sad that their only option for change is electing a goddamn fascist. i feel like i live in the twilight zone where people are like oh youre being dramatic!!! no im not, open up a goddamn history book. hitler didnt run on gassing the jews, hitler ran on deporting them, blaming them for germany's humiliation in their WW1 peace treaty.

also i agree - most of trumps supporters arent fascists. most are politically illiterate and just want change because the democrats have failed us all. but his base? oh, theyre rabid f*** fascists. stop excusing it, stop minimizing it, please dear god listen to marginalized people like myself who have first hand experience being on the receiving end of fascist hate.
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Fascism has a very specific meaning and history. You might not like Trump or the views of his supporters but calling them fascists is putting a fundamentally incorrect label on them. Its unfair and not seeing them for what they really are.
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If Liz Cheney is innocent, why did Biden Pardon her????
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Bigjohnski wrote: Jan 26th, '25, 09:38 If Liz Cheney is innocent, why did Biden Pardon her????
By that logic, all those pardoned by Trump for January 6th activities weren't "political prisoners" or "hostages" but, rather, were criminals since they needed to be pardoned. Got it. Trump lied. Thanks for clarifying.
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Bubba wrote: Jan 26th, '25, 11:51
Bigjohnski wrote: Jan 26th, '25, 09:38 If Liz Cheney is innocent, why did Biden Pardon her????
By that logic, all those pardoned by Trump for January 6th activities weren't "political prisoners" or "hostages" but, rather, were criminals since they needed to be pardoned. Got it. Trump lied. Thanks for clarifying.
I’m so confused. I thought Jan 6 was Antifa - why were they pardoned?
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asher2789 wrote: Jan 25th, '25, 21:39
Dickc wrote: Jan 24th, '25, 13:47
asher2789 wrote: Jan 23rd, '25, 17:37
Dickc wrote: Jan 23rd, '25, 17:26 474498875_623234613417369_5015265861287130678_n.jpg
for f*** sake. theres video evidence of him doing a nazi salute, stop trying to defend or downplay it. musk is a racist, apartheid nazi piece of sh*t who makes terrible cars that you need to swipe a touch screen to drive. f*** him and f*** his stupid f*** fan boys. the only good nazi is a dead one. my grandparents didnt fight the nazis for schmucks in 2025 defending these f*** losers.
Sorry to piss in your Cheerios Asher, but I have not seen the video, only the still like in the meme above. Using just those it sure looks like they are the same and also Musk's is posted by Trump haters to make him look bad. Post the video link so I can judge for myself.
the video is all over the goddamn internet. go watch it. stop excusing fascism. this is despicable. if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, its a f*** duck. someone needs to luigi his ass pronto.
Asher, Stormchaser posted a link. It clearly shows Musk is NOT doing a Nazi salute. Also, as is generally accepted in these United States, when a person makes an accusation, it is up to that person to provide proof. That is all I was asking you to do.

Second, Please do not ask people to murder someone because YOU don't like them.
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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 25th, '25, 19:34 This is the sort of thing that lost Democrats the election.

Trump is a lot of things but he is not a Nazi, nor are the overwhelming majority of his supporters. I don't even think it's fair or reasonable to call them fascists.
fascist are the dems attacking their political opponents with a weaponized justice system
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Jan 26th, '25, 11:58
Bubba wrote: Jan 26th, '25, 11:51
Bigjohnski wrote: Jan 26th, '25, 09:38 If Liz Cheney is innocent, why did Biden Pardon her????
By that logic, all those pardoned by Trump for January 6th activities weren't "political prisoners" or "hostages" but, rather, were criminals since they needed to be pardoned. Got it. Trump lied. Thanks for clarifying.
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I’m so confused. I thought Jan 6 was Antifa - why were they pardoned?

answer my question first or can you??
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