saturday june 1 closing day report

[buckethead]

hey! we're already 2% through the off-season!

and yes, squeeze they did. even those hard bumps are near gone

[Bubba]

for sure the shirt thing was the driving factor in the "line" and it was really the first time i observed it to that extent. it was done to a much lesser degree the previous weekend or two.

as to taking "the law" into your hands, not sure how that's gonna play. but i don't see a system the mtn could easily implement. and yeah we both know some folks who got there ridiculously early and left their skis.

in any case, now that everyone's been "educated" will be interesting to see how it plays out next time.

Life must be pretty unfulfilling if someone needs a shirt that badly for their self esteem. On the other hand, there are people who scan their pass and walk away in order to get their hundred day hat or claim club membership so we shouldn’t be so surprised. The resort encourages this behavior by creating the incentives.

[buckethead]

fwiw i don't think i got scanned at all june 1.
now i don't know if i was even there ;0]

yea, it was surprising how fast the place thinned out.
maybe folks grabbed 'em to sell on ebay to those they believe to be more unfullfilled than themselves.

[ski]

And the “leaving skis in line” thing seems pretty lame.

it became the new normal this may. people are getting there as much as 3+ hours before lift opening, so they leave their skis in line "reserving" their spot and then go back to their cars have breakfast, hang w friends, boot up whatever, coming back to their skis maybe 1/2 - 3/4 hr before the lift runs. as it turns out, some later arrivals, would see their friends in line, say hi to them and stay there.

last friday a regular ski partner was near the head of the line and waved me over. 2 other guys i knew gave me a hard time. could have said my friend was saving me a spot to ride w him but did what i thought was the "right thing" and went to the end of the line.

similarly parking has become very "competitive" with friends saving multiple spots. it's all become very cutthroat - the new world order at K.

Disgusting behavior . . All of this may be fine with the Springtime crew, but that crap won't fly on a powder day mid-winter. Amateurs.

[skiadikt]

Life must be pretty unfulfilling if someone needs a shirt that badly for their self esteem. On the other hand, there are people who scan their pass and walk away in order to get their hundred day hat or claim club membership so we shouldn’t be so surprised. The resort encourages this behavior by creating the incentives.

unfulfilling, self esteem?? says someone who only skis a couple days a year ...

maybe it was just the lure of "free stuff" - and in particular a t-shirt commemorating something a lot of folks don't get do. and for some maybe it was just getting to ski june 1, which while old news here, is something most skiers never get to the experience.

and people came out early knowing the shelf life was gonna be short before it literally got skied off. at it's worst at the bell, maybe it was a 25 min wait. quickly emptied as most folks got their run or two and split or partied.

rode the lift this may w many folks, some who had come from as far as ohio and virginia and were absolutely blown away by the whole experience. suspect they'll be back.

[Mister Moose]

maybe folks grabbed 'em to sell on ebay to those they believe to be more unfullfilled than themselves.

This made me wonder... so I checked Ebay.

2 '24 shirts have sold so far for $40 + $10 shipping. $50 for a very thin commemorative shirt. Two more are still for sale. All 4 from the same seller in Wolfeboro Falls, New Hampshire.

You can also buy a '22 shirt for $68, or a '22 youth shirt for $58. (They made youth sizes???)

You can buy this shirt, for all the complainers on the walk up and scan conspiracy:



(Sold out of Pittsfield, VT) $27, a bargain!

I don't get the complaining. 99.8% of the people were polite, had fun, got their shirt, skied, had a beer. We don't need to make rules and have hall monitors for the .02%. Same thing for parking and 100 scan hats.

[Bubba]

Life must be pretty unfulfilling if someone needs a shirt that badly for their self esteem. On the other hand, there are people who scan their pass and walk away in order to get their hundred day hat or claim club membership so we shouldn’t be so surprised. The resort encourages this behavior by creating the incentives.

unfulfilling, self esteem?? says someone who only skis a couple days a year ...

maybe it was just the lure of "free stuff" - and in particular a t-shirt commemorating something a lot of folks don't get do. and for some maybe it was just getting to ski june 1, which while old news here, is something most skiers never get to the experience.

and people came out early knowing the shelf life was gonna be short before it literally got skied off. at it's worst at the bell, maybe it was a 25 min wait. quickly emptied as most folks got their run or two and split or partied.

rode the lift this may w many folks, some who had come from as far as ohio and virginia and were absolutely blown away by the whole experience. suspect they'll be back.

Perhaps you misunderstood. My reference was to those few who “cheat” by putting their skis down to make sure they’re in the group that got the shirt and to those few who scan a pass to ensure getting 100 days. All the others earn their place.

[Southside_Bobby]

The '22 shirt is a great shirt. Tie dye look, and much thicker than this year. I don't think they made 1,000 of them in 22.

If the choice is quality vs quantity, I don't blame K for going for quantity this year, and perhaps for future Junes. It is a commemorative item, and it is nice if as many people as possible get to have one.

But it does make me value the 22 shirt. Like the opening day wool cap that season, which was equally well-made and limited supply. That is an item I actually wear all the time in the winter.

[GlenPLake]

I see nothing wrong with leaving skis/board as a marker in line. Just like getting a ticket with a number on it at the deli. It is a placeholder to ensure folks are served in the correct order, and lets folks enjoy the morning rather then standing in line all morning unnecessarily. I don’t see how folks who show up later but are more willing to stand around in a single spot and be bored have more rights to get on the lift then those who arrive early but with fun with stuff to do. The folks I know who had their stuff in line were mostly back at their cars cooking breakfast or otherwise contributing to the party, and were all back to the line with 30-45 minutes of place holding just so the later arriving folks wouldn’t get too butt hurt. Many of these folks arrived at 5 am or earlier, most with 100+ days.

[skiadikt]

I don't get the complaining. 99.8% of the people were polite, had fun, got their shirt, skied, had a beer. We don't need to make rules and have hall monitors for the .02%. Same thing for parking and 100 scan hats.

this is really the bottom line. i heard zero complaints (other than from who else - loco). thumbs up to plake as well.

it was a one day thing and isn't gonna happen on a pow day. the one snafu was the ikon issue.

[daytripper]

And I'm hearing K is refunding the ikon pass holders. Or at least the ones that contacted them about it

[DES]

I see nothing wrong with leaving skis/board as a marker in line. Just like getting a ticket with a number on it at the deli.

I’m just curious (since I disagree with you), go back to my previous post, what would you have done in my case when I could only see ONE person near the loading area of a quad chair…I obviously assumed I’d be on first chair if there are not 4 people standing waiting to load, why would I assume I was going to not make first chair when I can’t see skis laying on the ground with no owners from a distance.

If I walk up to a deli to get a number and there is NO ONE there, I’d assume my number is going to be called next (or at least my order will be placed next).

[boston_e]

I see nothing wrong with leaving skis/board as a marker in line. Just like getting a ticket with a number on it at the deli. It is a placeholder to ensure folks are served in the correct order, and lets folks enjoy the morning rather then standing in line all morning unnecessarily. I don’t see how folks who show up later but are more willing to stand around in a single spot and be bored have more rights to get on the lift then those who arrive early but with fun with stuff to do. The folks I know who had their stuff in line were mostly back at their cars cooking breakfast or otherwise contributing to the party, and were all back to the line with 30-45 minutes of place holding just so the later arriving folks wouldn’t get too butt hurt. Many of these folks arrived at 5 am or earlier, most with 100+ days.

What then is an appropriate time to start leaving skis? Can i set them out the evening before to make sure I'm first in line?

[Stormchaser]

I see nothing wrong with leaving skis/board as a marker in line. Just like getting a ticket with a number on it at the deli. It is a placeholder to ensure folks are served in the correct order, and lets folks enjoy the morning rather then standing in line all morning unnecessarily. I don’t see how folks who show up later but are more willing to stand around in a single spot and be bored have more rights to get on the lift then those who arrive early but with fun with stuff to do. The folks I know who had their stuff in line were mostly back at their cars cooking breakfast or otherwise contributing to the party, and were all back to the line with 30-45 minutes of place holding just so the later arriving folks wouldn’t get too butt hurt. Many of these folks arrived at 5 am or earlier, most with 100+ days.

What then is an appropriate time to start leaving skis? Can i set them out the evening before to make sure I'm first in line?

If it's before daylight, you must pitch a tent to save your spot.

[Southside_Bobby]

I see nothing wrong with leaving skis/board as a marker in line. Just like getting a ticket with a number on it at the deli. It is a placeholder to ensure folks are served in the correct order, and lets folks enjoy the morning rather then standing in line all morning unnecessarily. I don’t see how folks who show up later but are more willing to stand around in a single spot and be bored have more rights to get on the lift then those who arrive early but with fun with stuff to do. The folks I know who had their stuff in line were mostly back at their cars cooking breakfast or otherwise contributing to the party, and were all back to the line with 30-45 minutes of place holding just so the later arriving folks wouldn’t get too butt hurt. Many of these folks arrived at 5 am or earlier, most with 100+ days.

What then is an appropriate time to start leaving skis? Can i set them out the evening before to make sure I'm first in line?

Just leave them there at the end of the day on Memorial Day. That way, you don't have to carry them to your car and back, AND you get first in line when you return days later. WIN-WIN!